Strange unknown hermit crab

[GotButterflies]

Definitely an Ecuadorian. I recently found a great website that gives very detailed descriptions of each known species of coenobita.
http://coenobitaspecies.com/coenobita-compressus/

@GotButterflies I've not been able to find information anywhere on blueberries being endangered or protected. Do you have a reference for your sources regarding this information?

I looked afterward too - and I haven't either! I wonder it fit was just a myth!

[RebsCritters]

That would be great news as I hope to own some eventually!

[soilentgringa]

The pet shop I got him from can get them in every now and again . I thought that that was just a myth but I don't really know too much on the subject. However I had a chat with the owner of triops germany and he said that they can get them in quite easily but they're expensive and that they were bad for buisness could it be possible that only coenobita Lila is endangered and coenobita purpureus is not


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The owner of Triops Germany is banned from this and many other crab groups.

I absolutely do NOT endorse or encourage anyone to purchase from that person.

Last year they sold a PP to a 13 year old autistic boy in the U.S. and told him it was a coconut crab. The kid waited for months to get the shipment and when he got it, it was a PP.

I've personally seen the paid invoices and corresponded with the father, who was in Germany on business when met up with the owner of Triops.

The german crab community has blacklisted him.

Several people had dozens of dead crabs on arrival due to improper shipping.

Any member here caught recommending or linking others to that vendor will be warned and their posts deleted.

He feeds crabs food that has toxic ingredients and when he was asked about it, cursed out and harrassed several admins of another group. I've seen screencaps of these conversations and what he said and called them was inexcusable.

I will NEVER do business with someone so unethical.



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[soilentgringa]

Side note: There are PLENTY of crabs that can be adopted/rescued in the U.S. alone without supporting the industry.

I get that the desire to own "exotic" crabs is great, but none of them should be with us in the first place. They should have been left in the wild.

The handful of people who have managed to successfully get zoea to micro crab stage are also in this group.

The owner of Triops has professed to breed and sell captive born hermits; which is also a lie.

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[Hermias_mom]

The handful of people who have managed to successfully get zoea to micro crab stage are also in this group.

Soilentgringa- do you mean to say that the folks who have been breeding hermit crabs in captivity are part of this forum, or that they shouldn't be breeding hermit crabs in captivity? I thought figuring out how to breed hermit crabs in captivity was a good thing.

[soilentgringa]

The handful of people who have managed to successfully get zoea to micro crab stage are also in this group.

Soilentgringa- do you mean to say that the folks who have been breeding hermit crabs in captivity are part of this forum, or that they shouldn't be breeding hermit crabs in captivity? I thought figuring out how to breed hermit crabs in captivity was a good thing.

I meant that the people who have *actually* managed to pull it off and documented every step of the process are members here; their breeding threads/journals are available to read here.


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[soilentgringa]

The handful of people who have managed to successfully get zoea to micro crab stage are also in this group.

Soilentgringa- do you mean to say that the folks who have been breeding hermit crabs in captivity are part of this forum, or that they shouldn't be breeding hermit crabs in captivity? I thought figuring out how to breed hermit crabs in captivity was a good thing.

Like it is such a huge deal to have been able to do this, that most longtime crabbers who are also in online communities know who they are. They're like our rockstars or celebrities in a way. They've acheived something that is exceedingly difficult and often costly to do.

This is why I personally get angry when someone is dishonest about having done it. There is such a huge demand for exotic crabs that people don't even seem to care about the ethics of the vendors, as long as they can get their violas, straws, etc.

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[Hermias_mom]

Thanks for the clarification, Soilentgringa, I agree with you. I'm still learning about stuff, but I can see how it is a super big deal to successfully captive breed hermit crabs. People who are dishonest and unethical make me mad too. And then there's folks who are cruel to animals on top of that- I have few words appropriate for a public forum, but consuming fury comes close.

[RebsCritters]

Side note: There are PLENTY of crabs that can be adopted/rescued in the U.S. alone without supporting the industry.

I get that the desire to own "exotic" crabs is great, but none of them should be with us in the first place. They should have been left in the wild.

Unfortunately, this could be said of ALL animals kept in captivity, including cats, dogs, rabbits, etc., and the pet industry is an incredibly ugly and disgusting machine that is fueled by people who genuinely love the animals and do their best to do them justice, as well as those who take advantage of their vulnerability, and everyone in-between.
Hermit crabs are sadly not unique in their mistreatment by human hands looking to turn a profit no matter the cost.

Speaking for myself personally, I've fallen in love with these tiny helpless creatures (as I'm sure many of us have, which is why this community exists), and it is my sincere intention to help further their study and broaden our limited knowledge base, so that we can truly aid them.
I'd like to see myself among those who have had success with captive breeding. I've poured over every breeding thread here, as well as those of similar marine inverts on other official sites, and have borrowed literature from several universities, in preparation of this admittedly ambitious task. I want to have exotics so that I can breed them and (with a lot of luck and hopefully good preparation) rear their spawn. I've already made very large investments to this end, and have spent half a year researching non-stop (to the point where my daughter expressed concern that she won't see me anymore once we actually have larvae lol).
It is my hope that, with successful captive breeding and continued education of the public (and ourselves!), we can change the course for the hermit crab industry and put it into the hands of those who truly love these delicate creatures. Then we no longer have to worry about unscrupulous vendors or the horrors the animals face just for us to share our lives with them. I'm certain it would reduce PPS, which to me seems akin to PTSD for crabs.

Maybe I'm dreaming big, but I truly believe we can make a difference.

[GotButterflies]

Definitely an Ecuadorian. I recently found a great website that gives very detailed descriptions of each known species of coenobita.
http://coenobitaspecies.com/coenobita-compressus/

@GotButterflies I've not been able to find information anywhere on blueberries being endangered or protected. Do you have a reference for your sources regarding this information?

I looked afterward too - and I haven't either! I wonder if it was just a myth!

I found a species sheet on Violas that said they have been protected in Japan since 1970s.

Edit: I posted this before reading the rest of the posts that had been added since my last post. I apologize for that.

[PinchersAndShells]

The pet shop I got him from can get them in every now and again . I thought that that was just a myth but I don't really know too much on the subject. However I had a chat with the owner of triops germany and he said that they can get them in quite easily but they're expensive and that they were bad for buisness could it be possible that only coenobita Lila is endangered and coenobita purpureus is not


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The owner of Triops Germany is banned from this and many other crab groups.

I absolutely do NOT endorse or encourage anyone to purchase from that person.

Last year they sold a PP to a 13 year old autistic boy in the U.S. and told him it was a coconut crab. The kid waited for months to get the shipment and when he got it, it was a PP.

I've personally seen the paid invoices and corresponded with the father, who was in Germany on business when met up with the owner of Triops.

The german crab community has blacklisted him.

Several people had dozens of dead crabs on arrival due to improper shipping.

Any member here caught recommending or linking others to that vendor will be warned and their posts deleted.

He feeds crabs food that has toxic ingredients and when he was asked about it, cursed out and harrassed several admins of another group. I've seen screencaps of these conversations and what he said and called them was inexcusable.

I will NEVER do business with someone so unethical.



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That's terrible!
For the second message, I don't know if this is directed at the OP, but they did mention that they do not live in the U.S. Not trying to argue I just did want to mention that.

[123AE]

Side note: There are PLENTY of crabs that can be adopted/rescued in the U.S. alone without supporting the industry.

I get that the desire to own "exotic" crabs is great, but none of them should be with us in the first place. They should have been left in the wild.

The handful of people who have managed to successfully get zoea to micro crab stage are also in this group.

The owner of Triops has professed to breed and sell captive born hermits; which is also a lie.

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I'm in the uk and any hermit crab is a specialist pet here and I have never seen any up for adoption


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[123AE]

Side note: There are PLENTY of crabs that can be adopted/rescued in the U.S. alone without supporting the industry.

I get that the desire to own "exotic" crabs is great, but none of them should be with us in the first place. They should have been left in the wild.

Unfortunately, this could be said of ALL animals kept in captivity, including cats, dogs, rabbits, etc., and the pet industry is an incredibly ugly and disgusting machine that is fueled by people who genuinely love the animals and do their best to do them justice, as well as those who take advantage of their vulnerability, and everyone in-between.
Hermit crabs are sadly not unique in their mistreatment by human hands looking to turn a profit no matter the cost.

Speaking for myself personally, I've fallen in love with these tiny helpless creatures (as I'm sure many of us have, which is why this community exists), and it is my sincere intention to help further their study and broaden our limited knowledge base, so that we can truly aid them.
I'd like to see myself among those who have had success with captive breeding. I've poured over every breeding thread here, as well as those of similar marine inverts on other official sites, and have borrowed literature from several universities, in preparation of this admittedly ambitious task. I want to have exotics so that I can breed them and (with a lot of luck and hopefully good preparation) rear their spawn. I've already made very large investments to this end, and have spent half a year researching non-stop (to the point where my daughter expressed concern that she won't see me anymore once we actually have larvae lol).
It is my hope that, with successful captive breeding and continued education of the public (and ourselves!), we can change the course for the hermit crab industry and put it into the hands of those who truly love these delicate creatures. Then we no longer have to worry about unscrupulous vendors or the horrors the animals face just for us to share our lives with them. I'm certain it would reduce PPS, which to me seems akin to PTSD for crabs.

Maybe I'm dreaming big, but I truly believe we can make a difference.

I personally agree with you there because no animal can be captive bred with out captive bred individuals





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[123AE]

The pet shop I got him from can get them in every now and again . I thought that that was just a myth but I don't really know too much on the subject. However I had a chat with the owner of triops germany and he said that they can get them in quite easily but they're expensive and that they were bad for buisness could it be possible that only coenobita Lila is endangered and coenobita purpureus is not


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The owner of Triops Germany is banned from this and many other crab groups.

I absolutely do NOT endorse or encourage anyone to purchase from that person.

Last year they sold a PP to a 13 year old autistic boy in the U.S. and told him it was a coconut crab. The kid waited for months to get the shipment and when he got it, it was a PP.

I've personally seen the paid invoices and corresponded with the father, who was in Germany on business when met up with the owner of Triops.

The german crab community has blacklisted him.

Several people had dozens of dead crabs on arrival due to improper shipping.

Any member here caught recommending or linking others to that vendor will be warned and their posts deleted.

He feeds crabs food that has toxic ingredients and when he was asked about it, cursed out and harrassed several admins of another group. I've seen screencaps of these conversations and what he said and called them was inexcusable.

I will NEVER do business with someone so unethical.



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Don't worry I wasn't going to order from him because I understand that shipping these guys all around the world isn't good for them
Besides I can get exotics from a reputable dealer here for cheaper anyway


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[123AE]

Also, is there a thread on the coco crab incident , that kid must've had an absolutely massive tank


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