PPS- Adjustment Question

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PPS- Adjustment Question

Post by Gil07 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:41 pm

Hey guys! I'm gonna be a new crab owner soon, and have a question.

Lots of people believe its a good idea to provide the optimum conditions right off the bat, but some also argue that the crabs need to slowly adjust to new temp/humidity levels so they don't suffer 'shock'. So they slowly bump up their temp/humidity to approach the optimum levels over a few weeks period.

During this period, they offer a lot of healthy healing foods and sometimes reduce the substrate to the bare minimum. This can discourage them from digging in too deep and molting before recovering and getting their strength back up, which can seemingly lead to bad molts and death :(

I've heard very good things about this method. But what I'm wondering is, is it worth doing this if I know they're coming from acceptable conditions? As in, good humidity, low-optimal temperature (72-75) and decent diet?
I've been thinking about using less substrate to start with, to make sure they eat and to keep an eye on them the first week or so.

TLDR; Should I try post-purchase-stress adjustment to acclimatise to a 5 degree farenheit difference or go straight to 80?
And is starting with minimal substrate a good idea, or do you guys think I should top up to the recommended 6 inches?
I just wanna do whatever is safest and least stressful for the crabs :crabblush:

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Re: PPS- Adjustment Question

Post by curlysister » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:54 pm

Some of the admins/ mods on this site have rescued literally hundreds of crabs. They have found no difference in survival between the gradual vs immediate introduction to appropriate conditions.
Personally, I would put them into good conditions as soon as possible.
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Re: PPS- Adjustment Question

Post by Gil07 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:12 pm

Hmm, maybe it works in some cases and not the others? I've read its massively reduced death rates for some people, but also heard that it hasn't made much difference for others. I'd assume it works a lot better if they're coming directly from very bad conditions, like a particularly abusive petstore.
I'll link the article and vid I was looking at on it recently in case anyones curious c:

And all right! Thanks for the recommendation :)

https://crabstreetjournal.org/blog/2013 ... he-impact/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Heriyvv2mo
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Re: PPS- Adjustment Question

Post by JoeHermits » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:13 pm

The PPS Method hasn’t never been found to be more beneficial than going without. It’s less to do with results and more about what people are comfortable with.

If you know they’re coming from good conditions, though, there’s no need to acclimatize anyways ;)


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Re: PPS- Adjustment Question

Post by JoeHermits » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:16 pm

I just saw your post with the links. The admins before me did a massive study and found no difference between transitioned crabs vs. control, which is what we go off of today.

So far no one’s produced any actual data to refute our claims.


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Re: PPS- Adjustment Question

Post by Gil07 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:17 pm

JoeHermits wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:13 pm
If you know they’re coming from good conditions, though, there’s no need to acclimatize anyways ;)
Good to know! I figured a small change in conditions wouldn't cause problems, I think I'm just getting a little nervous >_>


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Re: PPS- Adjustment Question

Post by Gil07 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:21 pm

Oh, I wasn't aware of that! Is there a place I could find it? I'm trying to learn as much as I can about all of this.

Also I'm not trying to refute anything or argue in case thats what it looks like lol
I'm new to it all and just trying to figure it all out, I hear conflicting stuff and it can get confusing :c

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Re: PPS- Adjustment Question

Post by JoeHermits » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:45 pm

Gil07 wrote:Oh, I wasn't aware of that! Is there a place I could find it? I'm trying to learn as much as I can about all of this.

Also I'm not trying to refute anything or argue in case thats what it looks like lol
I'm new to it all and just trying to figure it all out, I hear conflicting stuff and it can get confusing :c
No, the original post was lost, which ticks me off because it makes our claims harder to support.

But yeah, there’s a lot of conflicting information because everybody and every group has an opinion and they all get mixed together into a confusing mess on the internet. Sometimes it’s best to go with your gut to determine what’s best.


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