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Bioactive Setup
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:06 pm
by CharlesMTF
My son currently has 2 crabs in a 10-gallon. Thinking of setting up a bioactive tank for them in a 20 long. How "bioactive" can I get? Meaning... I'll put in the sand/ee mix, that's fine. And, I'll throw in isopods and springtails. Besides climbing stuff and decorations, do I need to put anything else for the "bioactive" to work? Do I need to feed it biodegradeable materials, like leaf? Or, will crab poop be enough?
And, do I need to worry about the little bio bugs getting out? Can they, and will they, climb up the glass?
Any pros/cons/tips are greatly appreciated.
Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:38 pm
by GotButterflies
Hello

I would recommend just isopods for sure! As far as leaf litter, make it oak leaf litter that will be beneficial for the crabs too and a little moss for them to hide in. They will eat the crab poop for sure

As far as springtails, I've never had those in my 'tat. I wouldn't do both, they would compete with each other. The isopods could get eaten by the crabs. Both pests require humidity to survive, so don't worry about them getting out of the tank...they will die if they do. Isopods will not climb glass, I don't know about the springtails. Isopods are fun to watch. I love watching mine. The isopods eat food too.

Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:42 pm
by CharlesMTF
Thanks. I might just give it a whirl.
Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:00 pm
by GotButterflies
You are welcome! I have isopods and crabs in my 100g and 75g - The isopods clean up all of the crab poop!
Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:28 pm
by aussieJJDude
It will be interesting to see how the competition of resources have a affect on the springtail and isopods populations... If you have the resources to do so, I would recommend. I know that in the dart frogger world, they do use springtails as a clean up crew.
As the tank matures, it will also develop bacteria colonies that will assist in the process.
Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:17 pm
by LadyJinglyJones
Would one want to regularly add more leaf litter to maintain isopods & springtails? I'd expect a collony would crash if the food source were depleted.
Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:04 pm
by CharlesMTF
LadyJinglyJones wrote:Would one want to regularly add more leaf litter to maintain isopods & springtails? I'd expect a collony would crash if the food source were depleted.
I would think that eventually over time the "excess" colonies will die off, and you'll have just enough to support to waste produced in the tank... unless you DO feed the leaf litter, to keep the colony numbers higher than needed.
Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:36 am
by PinchersAndShells
For my future isopods I plan on (granted I'm establishing a breeding colony separate from the crab tank first) using a mixture of dried maple, birch, fireweed, and crabapple leaves thrown on the substrate. These are listed on the isopod caresheet on here as favorites for them. I am getting all of these from Alaska Hermit (I have 2/4, waiting for more of the other two to get back in stock.) My crabs seem to enjoy me throwing dried burning bush leaves down too (the PPs eat it all) so that's an option.
Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:51 pm
by LadyJinglyJones
I had to look up fireweed - and realized theres a lot of it around here and I can collect seed & grow some this year! Excited.

Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:37 am
by Sweet Pea
My tank has been bioactive for well over a year now and is primarily isopods. They have gotten to the point where I will need to remove some, but I'm waiting for spring since it is still pretty cold here. Once your colony is going strong you will definitely need to add more leaf litter. In the winter when I cannot gather any I use terrarium moss (I think there are a few different sources, like Zoomed). They do a fantastic job of cleaning up the crabitat. Poop literally disappears within 24 hours. I've never had escapees from my tank.
Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:57 pm
by GotButterflies
In my crabitats I have plenty of leaf litter in them, but crab poo is always gone in the morning when I go in there, so I know my isopods are doing their jobs! I usually see a handful of babies by the food. I will occasionally see crab poo in the shell shop, but nothing like I used to. In addition to no crab poo, the isopods are fun to watch!
Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:48 pm
by KayedeeLove<3
GotButterflies wrote:You are welcome! I have isopods and crabs in my 100g and 75g - The isopods clean up all of the crab poop!
Even in the moss pits?
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Re: Bioactive Setup
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:44 am
by GotButterflies
KayedeeLove<3 wrote:GotButterflies wrote:You are welcome! I have isopods and crabs in my 100g and 75g - The isopods clean up all of the crab poop!
Even in the moss pits?
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Yes mam! The isopods live between the moss pits and leaf litter. I keep my moss directly on my sub, so it's a little different for me. If the moss pits are easily accessible it should be eaten.
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